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diff --git a/meeting-logs/20121108.txt b/meeting-logs/20121108.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..2735ef7 --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-logs/20121108.txt @@ -0,0 +1,119 @@ +[20:02:21] <creffett> !herd kde +[20:02:22] <willikins> (kde) abcd, ago, alexxy, creffett, dilfridge, jmbsvicetto, johu, kensington, mschiff, patrick, reavertm, scarabeus, thev00d00 +[20:02:26] <creffett> 1. roll call, first attempt +[20:02:46] -*- creffett here +[20:04:08] --> tampakrap (~tampakrap@gentoo/developer/tampakrap) hat #gentoo-meetings betreten +[20:06:30] <creffett> well, that was successful. +[20:06:36] <creffett> will try again at :15 +[20:06:49] <jmbsvicetto> hmm +[20:07:11] <creffett> hmm indeed +[20:09:11] <dilfridge> hmm +[20:09:14] -*- dilfridge here +[20:09:44] <hwoarang> you guys are falling apart :p +[20:10:03] <creffett> our leader is MIA and I requested the meeting be moved up a week +[20:10:17] <creffett> and nobody being here for meetings is pretty standard anyway +[20:10:23] <hwoarang> :p +[20:10:28] <dilfridge> looking at the bug numbers it's not so bad +[20:10:43] <creffett> I'm surprised that I managed to get my time conversions right this time :P +[20:10:49] <dilfridge> hehe +[20:10:52] <dilfridge> I didn't +[20:10:53] <kensington> we need to decide on a new time I think :p +[20:10:59] <creffett> yeah, we do +[20:11:15] <creffett> preferably not decided only by the people who can make the meetings :P +[20:11:17] <jmbsvicetto> sorry guys, but I need to leave. Whatever you decide, I'm sure will be the best choice :) +[20:11:28] <dilfridge> oh dear :D +[20:11:38] <kensington> I'll vote on your behalf ;) +[20:11:48] <jmbsvicetto> hehe, go ahead +[20:11:54] -*- creffett decides to make kensington team leader and start a massive project to switch the backend of KDE to GTK+ +[20:12:02] <dilfridge> dastergon: congratulations!! +[20:12:04] <jmbsvicetto> kensington: just let amarok hidden in a corner and we'll be fine ;) +[20:12:41] <creffett> well, either way I'll be emailing kde@ with a request for opinions +[20:12:53] <dastergon> thank you dilfridge :) +[20:13:42] <kensington> mmmm, KDE/GTK+, nasty +[20:14:05] <creffett> this is what happens when I'm in charge +[20:15:36] <creffett> anyway, hopeful attempt at roll call, failing this we try again next week +[20:15:41] <creffett> !herd kde +[20:15:42] <willikins> (kde) abcd, ago, alexxy, creffett, dilfridge, jmbsvicetto, johu, kensington, mschiff, patrick, reavertm, scarabeus, thev00d00 +[20:15:57] <creffett> ^ guest starring dastergon +[20:15:57] -*- kensington (maybe) +[20:16:03] -*- dilfridge +[20:16:31] -*- creffett here +[20:18:16] <creffett> ...sigh +[20:18:26] <creffett> okay, meeting pushed to next week, I guess +[20:18:28] <dilfridge> well +[20:18:34] <dilfridge> what's actually on the agenda? +[20:18:44] <dilfridge> or more precisely, +[20:18:49] <dilfridge> what is important / urgent? +[20:18:53] -*- creffett checks +[20:19:28] <dilfridge> I had bug 430286 for a while but it disappeared mysteriously +[20:19:31] <willikins> dilfridge: https://bugs.gentoo.org/430286 ">=kde-base/konsole-4.9.0 freezes on double-click"; Gentoo Linux, KDE; UNCO; Martin.vGagern:kde +[20:19:48] <creffett> 3 potential blockers to stabilizing 4.9, whether to stabilize 4.9.3, when to move cmake to the tree, and what to do about the polkit-kde-kcmodules fiddling with stuff in /usr +[20:19:53] <dilfridge> I *think* after logging out and in, and it only happened during the in-place upgrade +[20:19:54] <kensington> (I note that while our herd member list is large, not too many seem to have much time at the moment, so I don't think we'll get too much improved turnout at a later date) +[20:20:22] <creffett> true +[20:20:40] <dilfridge> yes +[20:20:45] <kensington> I think we should move 4.9.3 to tree and stable it, too many fixes are waiting in stable +[20:20:49] <kensington> s/stable/~arch/ +[20:20:53] <creffett> so, we have three potential blockers to stabilizing 4.9: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430286, https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434156, https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438274 +[20:21:01] <dilfridge> bug 434156 is hard to debug without help from upstream +[20:21:04] <willikins> https://bugs.gentoo.org/434156 "kde-base/kmail-4.9.1: Problems creating imap folder"; Gentoo Linux, KDE; CONF; dilfridge:kde +[20:21:26] <creffett> the last one is tracking upstream +[20:21:27] <dilfridge> and since upstream in this particular case usually does not care for gentoo... +[20:22:08] <dilfridge> I'd say these are not really blockers (the first one would be but I have not seen it for a while) +[20:22:16] <creffett> my thoughts are that the three aren't crucial enough to block stabilization, and the last one is upstreamed and we can backport a fix if/when it comes up +[20:22:27] <dilfridge> ack +[20:22:49] <dilfridge> mmhh where is ago? +[20:23:04] <dilfridge> :| +[20:23:09] <creffett> excellent question +[20:23:47] <creffett> and then 4.9.3 will be our stable candidate +[20:23:49] <dilfridge> what is the sec bug that ago was talking about? +[20:24:10] <creffett> not sure +[20:24:18] <kensington> !bug #438452 +[20:24:20] <willikins> kensington: https://bugs.gentoo.org/438452 "kde-base/konqueror : Multiple vulnerabilities (CVE-2012-{4512,4513,4514,4515})"; Gentoo Security, Vulnerabilities; IN_P; ago:security +[20:25:02] <kensington> we did some investigating and all the fixes are in kdelibs +[20:25:12] <dilfridge> ok +[20:25:21] <kensington> in various versions, the last fixed in 4.9.3 +[20:25:24] <dilfridge> so either fast-stable 493 or backport +[20:25:36] <creffett> fast-stable 493 +[20:25:47] <dilfridge> yeah why not +[20:26:03] <kensington> there's quite a few bugs cropping back up that are fixed in ~arch, so++ +[20:26:18] <creffett> all right, that's settled +[20:26:22] <creffett> when do we move 493 to the tree? +[20:26:23] <kensington> eg. rich0 ran into stable build failure today +[20:26:41] <dilfridge> searching for the cve numbers on bugs.kde.org gives no results :( +[20:26:52] <dilfridge> creffett: now? +[20:27:03] <creffett> dilfridge: fine with me +[20:27:04] <dilfridge> with stabilization as soon as ago can do it? +[20:27:08] <creffett> mhm +[20:27:20] <kensington> ++ +[20:27:46] <creffett> I'll move it into the tree later today +[20:27:50] <dilfridge> cool +[20:28:09] <kensington> there's a list of misc apps in the overlay due for stabilisation too +[20:28:18] <dilfridge> I'll be gone soon, need to be back at work 8 sharp... +[20:28:19] <creffett> is there anything special to that beyond "copy everything into kde-base/"? I haven't actually done a move-kde-to-tree before :) +[20:28:30] <creffett> okay, will discuss that later +[20:28:45] <dilfridge> creffett: the bump script can do it +[20:28:49] <creffett> okay +[20:29:20] <dilfridge> but in the past I've also done it with find and cp +[20:29:36] <creffett> last two: cmake I say we bump and wait a week or so before moving to tree, and the polkit-kde-kcmodules let's throw a CONFIG_PROTECT in for now and we'll look at symlinking in KDE 4.10 +[20:29:41] <dilfridge> the only difficulty is not missing any patches +[20:30:44] <dilfridge> cmake: ack +[20:31:10] <dilfridge> polkit-... not sure what you want to achieve with CONFIG_PROTECT +[20:31:40] <dilfridge> but all changes only become critical with 4.10 I guess, we probably dont want to make big adaptions within 4.9 series +[20:32:08] <creffett> protecting /usr/share/polkit-1/actions because right now KDE modifies that and so it can be overwritten on upgrade +[20:32:15] <dilfridge> ah ok +[20:32:15] <dilfridge> yes +[20:32:31] <dilfridge> CONFIG_PROTECT for now and moving it maybe with 4.10 +[20:32:48] <kensington> ++ +[20:32:52] <creffett> mhm, but the exact implementation can wait until we start getting pre-releases of 4.10\ +[20:32:56] <creffett> and that's all from me +[20:32:57] <dilfridge> yes +[20:33:21] <dilfridge> everything else is good for next meeting I think +[20:33:35] <creffett> mhm, will go push them onto the agenda for next month +[20:33:39] <creffett> thanks all +[20:33:57] <dilfridge> thank you :) +[20:35:19] <tampakrap> creffett: don't worry, you are doing great +[20:35:43] <creffett> I'm not even supposed to be running these things, johu is +[20:36:04] <tampakrap> not really +[20:36:11] <tampakrap> team leader != meeting chairman +[20:36:15] <creffett> he's the fearless leader |