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authorAndreas K. Hüttel <dilfridge@gentoo.org>2017-04-18 22:46:09 +0200
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diff --git a/decisions/decisions.ded b/decisions/decisions.ded
index 9d84aac..1328bb2 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.ded
+++ b/decisions/decisions.ded
@@ -7,6 +7,9 @@ Wernfried Haas
araujo
Luis Francisco Araujo
+armin76
+Raúl Porcel
+
azarah
Martin Schlemmer
@@ -16,6 +19,9 @@ Steve Dibb
betelgeuse
Petteri Räty
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Betelgeuse
+blackace
+Nicholas D. Wolfwood
+
caleb
Caleb Tennis
@@ -28,6 +34,9 @@ Donnie Berkholz
dsd
Daniel Drake
+eroyf
+Alexander Færøy
+
flameeyes
Diego Elio Pettenò
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Flameeyes
@@ -82,6 +91,9 @@ https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Nightmorph
patrick
Patrick Lauer
+philantrop
+Wulf Krueger
+
ramereth
Lance Albertson
diff --git a/decisions/decisions.kilepr b/decisions/decisions.kilepr
index 9cad1d1..fa21b69 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.kilepr
+++ b/decisions/decisions.kilepr
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ img_extIsRegExp=false
img_extensions=.eps .jpg .jpeg .png .pdf .ps .fig .gif
kileprversion=2
kileversion=2.1.3
-lastDocument=documents.tex
+lastDocument=summary-20080410.tex
masterDocument=
name=Gentoo Council Decicisions Index
pkg_extIsRegExp=false
@@ -1193,20 +1193,20 @@ order=1
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mode=LaTeX
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+open=true
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[item:summary-20080508.tex]
archive=true
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diff --git a/decisions/decisions.mlf b/decisions/decisions.mlf
index 39f899d..150091f 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.mlf
+++ b/decisions/decisions.mlf
@@ -20,6 +20,8 @@ Ulrich Mueller
Mike Frysinger
0e09e374488d2393c6cf794e349dc614:gentoo-project
Roy Bamford
+0f6f6f5118a06929565edd2dbca8ae46:gentoo-dev
+Mike Frysinger
130b7147343ca6a1171d7046437e0525:gentoo-dev
Ciaran McCreesh
14cc0e4a82ac3fe0a6aca94aaebb981f:gentoo-project
@@ -42,6 +44,8 @@ Robin H. Johnson
Michał Górny
217c67d53b7d8240ff9fecabd29f8303:gentoo-pms
Ulrich Mueller
+21de1bcb87913938d804afa39f8f1d35:gentoo-dev
+Ciaran McCreesh
2342bd1cad57e432a319c55e3ef7e6df:gentoo-dev
Michał Górny
2406f61ebe526f4f3d9e23227aa1b96b:gentoo-dev
@@ -50,6 +54,8 @@ Mike Frysinger
Piotr Jaroszyński
280f7cb2193f8f3302a556d70d75ac47:gentoo-project
Michał Górny
+29d8d713a2d94da730ee2247426174bc:gentoo-dev
+Raúl Porcel
2a62689c71f95e4de5699a330b8b5524:gentoo-dev
Fabian Groffen
2c8d8c149db1d5cfad877e6a355ff83b:gentoo-project
@@ -84,6 +90,8 @@ Michał Górny
Chris Reffett
468ddba98d6f6b1ffbc800da9ea15f2e:gentoo-dev
Shyam Mani
+46bf3619625ec081d4c5c858e375c011:gentoo-dev
+Donnie Berkholz
46d474d621455bc204654dc483e87cc5:gentoo-dev
Tiziano Müller
474fc6822dba50ccc6192c9f31d8024a:gentoo-project
@@ -306,6 +314,8 @@ e6eafd6be25794ca503e0ac9d6968cd3:gentoo-project
Ulrich Mueller
e96d276a4524778bc80871bba48c06c6:gentoo-project
Ulrich Mueller
+ee52223219e2ff676ba6c106c227c2a7:gentoo-dev
+Mike Frysinger
eedef3ff358221e8dd267182f8ff9103:gentoo-dev
Mike Frysinger
ef7635aa655913f2386e64e385f5a6ae:gentoo-pms
diff --git a/decisions/decisions.mls b/decisions/decisions.mls
index 4440aa7..749516c 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.mls
+++ b/decisions/decisions.mls
@@ -20,6 +20,8 @@ Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2017-02-12
[gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting
0e09e374488d2393c6cf794e349dc614:gentoo-project
Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2012-05-08
+0f6f6f5118a06929565edd2dbca8ae46:gentoo-dev
+[gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April
130b7147343ca6a1171d7046437e0525:gentoo-dev
[gentoo-dev] RFC: disallowing multiple votes per person in council meetings
14cc0e4a82ac3fe0a6aca94aaebb981f:gentoo-project
@@ -42,6 +44,8 @@ Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-11-13
Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11
217c67d53b7d8240ff9fecabd29f8303:gentoo-pms
[gentoo-pms] Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Shall econf append its arguments to end of ./configure invocation?
+21de1bcb87913938d804afa39f8f1d35:gentoo-dev
+[gentoo-dev] Remaining PMS todo list etc
2342bd1cad57e432a319c55e3ef7e6df:gentoo-dev
[gentoo-dev] RFC: an eclass to handle optional runtime depends
2406f61ebe526f4f3d9e23227aa1b96b:gentoo-dev
@@ -50,6 +54,8 @@ Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11
[gentoo-council] GLEP 54: _live or _scm?
280f7cb2193f8f3302a556d70d75ac47:gentoo-project
Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2015-02-10
+29d8d713a2d94da730ee2247426174bc:gentoo-dev
+Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March
2a62689c71f95e4de5699a330b8b5524:gentoo-dev
[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds
2c8d8c149db1d5cfad877e6a355ff83b:gentoo-project
@@ -84,6 +90,8 @@ Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2016-02-14
Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08
468ddba98d6f6b1ffbc800da9ea15f2e:gentoo-dev
[gentoo-dev] Council 2007 Election Results
+46bf3619625ec081d4c5c858e375c011:gentoo-dev
+Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for April
46d474d621455bc204654dc483e87cc5:gentoo-dev
[gentoo-dev] Updated GLEP 46: Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml
474fc6822dba50ccc6192c9f31d8024a:gentoo-project
@@ -306,6 +314,8 @@ e6eafd6be25794ca503e0ac9d6968cd3:gentoo-project
Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2012-05-08
e96d276a4524778bc80871bba48c06c6:gentoo-project
Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 09-10-2012
+ee52223219e2ff676ba6c106c227c2a7:gentoo-dev
+[gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March
eedef3ff358221e8dd267182f8ff9103:gentoo-dev
[gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February
ef7635aa655913f2386e64e385f5a6ae:gentoo-pms
diff --git a/decisions/decisions.mlt b/decisions/decisions.mlt
index 9f67817..77b275c 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.mlt
+++ b/decisions/decisions.mlt
@@ -20,6 +20,8 @@ Sat, 30 Aug 2014 12:54:50
Wed, 07 Dec 2005 23:52:39
0e09e374488d2393c6cf794e349dc614:gentoo-project
Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:04:34
+0f6f6f5118a06929565edd2dbca8ae46:gentoo-dev
+Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:26:20
130b7147343ca6a1171d7046437e0525:gentoo-dev
Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:24:46
14cc0e4a82ac3fe0a6aca94aaebb981f:gentoo-project
@@ -42,6 +44,8 @@ Sat, 19 Nov 2005 06:03:13
Sun, 04 Oct 2015 11:14:08
217c67d53b7d8240ff9fecabd29f8303:gentoo-pms
Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:04:05
+21de1bcb87913938d804afa39f8f1d35:gentoo-dev
+Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:27:31
2342bd1cad57e432a319c55e3ef7e6df:gentoo-dev
Sun, 31 Jul 2011 15:26:56
2406f61ebe526f4f3d9e23227aa1b96b:gentoo-dev
@@ -50,6 +54,8 @@ Mon, 01 Jan 2007 10:33:34
Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:02:32
280f7cb2193f8f3302a556d70d75ac47:gentoo-project
Mon, 09 Feb 2015 23:49:53
+29d8d713a2d94da730ee2247426174bc:gentoo-dev
+Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:54:41
2a62689c71f95e4de5699a330b8b5524:gentoo-dev
Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:12:40
2c8d8c149db1d5cfad877e6a355ff83b:gentoo-project
@@ -84,6 +90,8 @@ Tue, 31 May 2016 12:49:45
Mon, 07 Apr 2014 16:37:09
468ddba98d6f6b1ffbc800da9ea15f2e:gentoo-dev
Wed, 19 Sep 2007 02:14:25
+46bf3619625ec081d4c5c858e375c011:gentoo-dev
+Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:56:56
46d474d621455bc204654dc483e87cc5:gentoo-dev
Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:07:57
474fc6822dba50ccc6192c9f31d8024a:gentoo-project
@@ -306,6 +314,8 @@ e6eafd6be25794ca503e0ac9d6968cd3:gentoo-project
Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:04:07
e96d276a4524778bc80871bba48c06c6:gentoo-project
Tue, 25 Sep 2012 12:02:28
+ee52223219e2ff676ba6c106c227c2a7:gentoo-dev
+Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:30:12
eedef3ff358221e8dd267182f8ff9103:gentoo-dev
Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:30:22
ef7635aa655913f2386e64e385f5a6ae:gentoo-pms
diff --git a/decisions/summary-20080313.tex b/decisions/summary-20080313.tex
index 9e79fb6..55884a8 100644
--- a/decisions/summary-20080313.tex
+++ b/decisions/summary-20080313.tex
@@ -1,89 +1,88 @@
\summary{2008}{3}{13}
+Agenda call: \agoref{gentoo-dev}{ee52223219e2ff676ba6c106c227c2a7}
+
\agendaitem{Document of being an active developer}
\index{developer certificate}
-No updates
+There were no updates
+
\agendaitem{Slacker arches}
\index{arches!slacking}
-2 months ago:
-vapier will work on rich0's suggestion and repost it for
-discussion on -dev ML
+\dev{vapier} said he was going to work on it this weekend.
-Updates:
-vapier said he was going to work on it this weekend.
\agendaitem{GLEP 46: Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml}
Reference: \glep{46}
-Last month: Caveat on approval about allowed protocols
+There were no updates and no GLEP authors present.
-Updates: No updates; no authors present
\agendaitem{EAPI 0}
\index{EAPI!0}
-Last month: Halcy0n was working on it
-Updates:
- Ciaran has been contributing and has committed quite a few
- things. Halcy0n hopes to work on it in the next couple of weeks.
- He informed us that Ciaran said when he finishes the environment
- tables, EAPI=0 is probably a week of solid work from having a
- draft for review.
+\dev{ciaranm} has been contributing and has committed quite a few things.
+\dev{halcy0n} hopes to work on it in the next couple of weeks. He informed us
+that \dev{ciaranm} said when he finishes the environment tables, EAPI=0 is
+probably a week of solid work from having a draft for
+review.\footnote{\dev{halcy0n} wasn't around when the topic came up, so the
+above info was from after the meeting.}
- Halcy0n wasn't around when the topic came up, so the above info
- was from after the meeting.
\agendaitem{Google Summer of Code}
\index{GSoC}
-Should Gentoo devs be allowed to participate?
-
-GNOME's policy is that they favor people who haven't contributed
- before, but they will accept great projects from contributors.
+Should Gentoo developers be allowed to participate? GNOME's policy is that they
+favor people who haven't contributed before, but they will accept great projects
+from contributors.
-Decision: Council members will become additional SoC admins, and
- will serve as tiebreaker votes if they aren't actively participating
- in SoC project selection.
-
-Decision: Gentoo SoC admins will decide whether non-contributors
- should be favored over contributors.
+Decision: The council members will become additional SoC admins, and will serve
+as tiebreaker votes if they aren't actively participating in SoC project
+selection. The Gentoo SoC admins will decide whether non-contributors should be
+favored over contributors.
\agendaitem{Package maintainers}
-\index{proxy-maintainers}
+\index{proxy-maintainers}\index{overlays}
+
+The argument was made that maintaining specific packages does not necessarily
+require wide-ranging developer powers and / or knowledge --- which might make
+streamlining the recruitment process possible.
-Decision: We'll promote proxy-maintainers more -- GMN, website, etc.
+Decision: We'll promote proxy-maintainers and overlays more -- e.g., via GMN,
+website, etc.
\agendaitem{amd64 arch team and big bug list}
\index{arches!slacking}\index{arch!amd64}
- kingtaco (mike) said it's hard to keep people interested in
- keywording.
+In his \agoref{gentoo-dev}{29d8d713a2d94da730ee2247426174bc}, \dev{armin76}
+wrote that amd64 has many open bugs even though it's the most staffed arch team.
+
+\dev{kingtaco} said it's hard to keep people interested in
+keywording. Anyone interested has had permission to keyword and stabilize
+non-system packages since 2007.1 (see -core email from \dev{kingtaco} with
+subject "AMD64 keywording").
- Anyone interested has had permission to keyword and stabilize
- non-system packages since 2007.1 (see -core email from kingtaco with
- subject "AMD64 keywording").
\agendaitem{Open floor}
\index{council!meeting!required attendees}
- A list of required attendees would be useful. dberkholz will start
- creating the agenda along with this list in advance of the meeting.
- Posting the agenda on a google calendar, along with other stuff,
- could help. flameeyes is starting to work with the PR team on this.
+A list of required attendees for council meetings would be useful.
+\dev{dberkholz} will start creating the agenda along with this list in advance
+of the meeting. Posting the agenda on a Google calendar, along with other
+stuff, could help. \dev{flameeyes} is starting to work with the PR team on this.
diff --git a/decisions/summary-20080410.tex b/decisions/summary-20080410.tex
index 86f580e..677919a 100644
--- a/decisions/summary-20080410.tex
+++ b/decisions/summary-20080410.tex
@@ -2,12 +2,16 @@
\summary{2008}{4}{10}
+Agenda call: \agoref{gentoo-dev}{0f6f6f5118a06929565edd2dbca8ae46}
+
+Agenda announcement: \agoref{gentoo-dev}{46bf3619625ec081d4c5c858e375c011}
+
+
+
\agendaitem{Document of being an active developer}
\index{developer certificate}
-Last month: No updates
-
-Updates: No updates
+There were no updates to this.
@@ -15,15 +19,8 @@ Updates: No updates
\index{arches!slacking}
-3 months ago:
- vapier will work on rich0's suggestion and repost it for
- discussion on -dev ML
-
- Last month:
- vapier said he was going to work on it this weekend.
+\dev{vapier} said he's finishing this up and will have it posted tonight.
- Updates:
- vapier said he's finishing it up and will have it posted tonight.
\agendaitem{GLEP 46: Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml}
@@ -31,69 +28,67 @@ Updates: No updates
Reference: \glep{46}
- 2 months ago:
- Caveat on approval about allowed protocols
+The restriction to http/https has been dropped as pointed out by \dev{amne}.
+The point for restricting the URLs to the mentioned protocols was that they
+shouldn't link to automatically updated ressources. This has been replaced by
+an explicit specification and a recommendation that http/http should be
+favoured over ftp/svn/gopher/etc to make the implementation for automated
+update discovery tools easier (they should of course ignore URLs they can't
+handle).
- Updates:
- Restriction to http/https has been dropped as pointed out by
- council members (amne and Flameeyes if I'm right). The point
- for restricting the URLs to the mentioned protocols was that
- they shouldn't link to automatically updated ressources. This
- has been replaced by an explicit specification and a
- recommendation that http/http should be favoured over
- ftp/svn/gopher/etc to make the implementation for automated
- update discovery tools easier (they should of course ignore URLs
- they can't handle).
+\vote{Approval of \glep{46}}{Approved with 5 yes votes, 1 abstention}
- Approved.
\agendaitem{Minimal activity for ebuild devs}
-\index{developers!minimal activity}
+\index{developers!minimal activity}\index{cia.vc}\index{ohloh}
+
+The current expected minimal activity for ebuild developers is 1 commit every
+60 days. Should it be higher?
-Current is 1 commit every 60 days. Should it be higher?
+Agreement was hard to find. Some people thought it should be 1 commit / week,
+others said that people have busy lives and questioned the benefits.
-Agreement was hard to find. Some people thought it should be 1
- commit / week, others said that people have busy lives and
- questioned the benefits.
+A number of people did agree that we should trust the judgment of the
+undertakers.
-A number of people did agree that we should trust the judgment of
- the undertakers.
+\dev{dberkholz} suggested that low commit rates may not maintain the quality of
+the committer, and that we should more carefully review the commits of these
+people.
-dberkholz suggested that low commit rates may not maintain the
- quality of the committer, and we should more carefully review the
- commits of these people.
+Various ways to track commit statistics were discussed, such as cia.vc and
+ohloh. cia.vc seems to have too much downtime to rely on. \dev{ciaranm} talked
+with ohloh people already. ohloh would require some modifications to ohcount to
+recognize ebuilds and eclasses, and a full copy of the cvs repository to start,
+but it seems worth exploring. Betelgeuse said he would tar up a copy of the
+gentoo-x86 repository.
-Ways to track commit stats of various sorts came up, such as cia.vc
- and ohloh. cia seems to have too much downtime to rely on. ciaranm
- talked with ohloh people already. ohloh would require some
- modifications to ohcount to recognize ebuilds and eclasses, and a
- full copy of the cvs repository to start, but it seems worth
- exploring. Betelgeuse said he would tar up a copy of the gentoo-x86
- repo.
\agendaitem{Initial comments on PMS}
\index{PMS}\index{EAPI!kdebuild-1}
-Reference: http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/pms.git
+Reference: \url{https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/pms.git/}
-Are there any major changes needed, or just tuning details?
+Are there any major changes needed, or just tuning details? A list of remaining
+items to be done was posted in the
+\agoref{gentoo-dev}{21de1bcb87913938d804afa39f8f1d35}.
-The council voted that kdebuild-1 and other unapproved EAPIs could
- not be in an approved PMS document. The spec isn't a place for
- proposals or things that will never be submitted for approval by the
- council. It's a specification, a reference of what is allowed in the
- main tree.
+The council voted that kdebuild-1 and other unapproved EAPIs could not be in an
+approved PMS document. The spec isn't a place for proposals or things that will
+never be submitted for approval by the council. It's a specification, a
+reference of what is allowed in the main tree.\footnote{Haven't found a clear
+vote in the log yet, this seems to have been more of a conclusion that slowly
+crystallized.}
\agendaitem{Open floor}
\index{project!devrel}
- blackace asked about complaints against philantrop, eroyf, and spb.
- vapier referred that to devrel. Betelgeuse said that there's been no
- rejection or action on those complaints yet, and internal discussion
- is ongoing. Philantrop complained that he hadn't heard anything
- about complaints, and Betelgeuse said that since some members
- already left, he didn't want to take matters into his own hands in
- sharing private information.
+\dev{blackace} asked about complaints against \dev{philantrop}, \dev{eroyf},
+and \dev{spb}. \dev{vapier} referred that to devrel. \dev{betelgeuse} said that
+there's been no rejection or action on those complaints yet, and internal
+discussion is ongoing. \dev{philantrop} complained that he hadn't heard
+anything about complaints, and \dev{betelgeuse} said that since some members
+already left, he didn't want to take matters into his own hands in sharing
+private information.