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+--- Log opened Tue Feb 14 20:03:35 2012
+20:03 -!- mode/#gentoo-council [+v dberkholz] by ChanServ
+20:03 -!- Irssi: Join to #gentoo-council was synced in 1 secs
+20:03 <jmbsvicett@> Chainsaw: I have Donnie's number on the other laptop :\
+20:03 <  Chainsaw@> Good evening dberkholz.
+20:03 < dberkholz+> hi guys, sorry.
+20:03 <jmbsvicett@> anyone has access to email? He sent a phone number for FOSDEM
+20:03 <   grobian@> ah, good
+20:04 <   grobian@> jmbsvicetto: not necessary any more ;)
+20:04 < dberkholz+> i totally suck. got all distracted w/ fosdem stuff
+20:04 <jmbsvicett@> Hi Donnie
+20:04 <Betelgeuse@> jmbsvicetto: There is no requirement to decide anything so we are fine for that rule.
+20:04 < dberkholz+> i think the only question was the poland friends site, right?
+20:05 <jmbsvicett@> Betelgeuse: I think we already have 4, otherwise we would hit that rule. Last time it happened was 2 or 3 years ago
+20:05 <   grobian@> dberkholz: do you have an agenda at hand?
+20:05 <     _AxS_ > jmbsvicetto: umm..  regarding that rule, technically couldn't you just decide that (without quarum) you guys not have the meeting until later? :)
+20:05 <jmbsvicett@> Betelgeuse: the point of that rule is to ensure no meeting is hold without quorum
+20:06 <jmbsvicett@> _AxS_: last time that happened the rule was applied
+20:06 <jmbsvicett@> _AxS_: but in an case, we do have a quorum
+20:06 < dberkholz+> grobian: well, the only item was regarding the gentoo poland group and name/logo use, which is clearly a trustees question imho
+20:06 < dberkholz+> grobian: so there isn't any agenda for the meeting
+20:06 <jmbsvicett@> Betelgeuse, Chainsaw, dberkholz, grobian, hwoarang and jmbsvicetto are around.
+20:06 <   grobian@> dberkholz: we have a discussion here that the agenda wasn't sent a week in advance, like we decided in our first meeting
+20:07 < dberkholz+> how can you send a nonexistent agenda?
+20:07 < dberkholz+> there was nothing to discuss
+20:07 <   grobian@> dberkholz: like I did
+20:07  * Chainsaw confirms his presence
+20:07 <   grobian@> dberkholz: but we think we can get away with it, because it's empty
+20:07 <  Chainsaw@> (On time & unprompted, for the record!)
+20:07 < dberkholz+> Chainsaw: yeah, i took your spot on that one
+20:07 <   grobian@> Chainsaw: woohoo :)
+20:08 <   grobian@> ulm: around?
+20:08 <       ulm@> yes
+20:08 <jmbsvicett@> so, dberkholz do you want to open the meeting? ;)
+20:08 <jmbsvicett@> dberkholz: we just need to do a head count an open the floor
+20:08 <jmbsvicett@> and*
+20:09 <   grobian@> jmbsvicetto: I guess the open actions haven't changed, right?
+20:09 < dberkholz+> where's hwoarang?
+20:09 <jmbsvicett@> grobian: not mine :-\
+20:09 <  hwoarang@> i am here
+20:09 < dberkholz+> ok, that's everyone
+20:09 <jmbsvicett@> dberkholz: for the record, I suggest we open the meeting do a roll call and then open the floor
+20:10 <   grobian@> ack
+20:10 <jmbsvicett@> so you can list that in the log
+20:10 < dberkholz+> everyone on the council has spoken now, but if you insist on formal process, i guess that's fine
+20:11 <jmbsvicett@> dberkholz: I'd say it's best to be safe than sorry ;)
+20:11 < dberkholz+> so, council folks, say you're here again.
+20:11 <jmbsvicett@> here
+20:11 <   grobian@> here
+20:11 <  Chainsaw@> Present.
+20:11 < dberkholz+> Betelgeuse, hwoarang, ulm: say hi again
+20:11 <  hwoarang@> hi
+20:11 <       ulm@> here
+20:11 <Betelgeuse@> hi
+20:12 < dberkholz+> i feel much safer now, don't you? =P
+20:12 <Betelgeuse@> no
+20:12 <jmbsvicett@> x
+20:12 <jmbsvicett@> dberkholz: it's a "warm" feeling :P
+20:12 < dberkholz+> jmbsvicetto: any progress on bug 383467?
+20:13 < willikins > dberkholz: https://bugs.gentoo.org/383467 "Council webpage lacks results for 2010 and 2011 elections"; Website www.gentoo.org, Projects; CONF; hwoarang:jmbsvicetto
+20:13 <jmbsvicett@> so, are we ok with this meeting or do you want us to hold another meeting this month?
+20:13 <jmbsvicett@> I think we're ok and don't see a need for a new meeting
+20:13 <jmbsvicett@> dberkholz: no, sorry
+20:13 < dberkholz+> that's the only open bug i see
+20:13 <  Chainsaw@> jmbsvicetto: I'm glad we agree on that. Then the next meeting can be in March.
+20:13 <   grobian@> I think we're ok if we stick to roll-call + open floor
+20:13 <Betelgeuse@> I would call for agenda items. If there are then hold a meeting.
+20:14 < dberkholz+> grobian sent out a call on feb 2...
+20:14 <Betelgeuse@> We could also just hold our March meeting early March
+20:14 < dberkholz+> if people didn't reply to that, they apparently had no issues
+20:14 <Betelgeuse@> dberkholz: true
+20:14 < dberkholz+> btw, thank you for that grobian, much appreciated
+20:14 <Betelgeuse@> So I guess we are fine as people forgetting to attend is not a big problem.
+20:14 <   grobian@> dberkholz: yw
+20:15 < dberkholz+> got caught up in a big morass with the fosdem trip, getting my phone stolen, etc.
+20:15 < dberkholz+> so, let's open the floor up, and if there's nothing, we'll wrap up in a couple minutes
+20:15 <jmbsvicett@> dberkholz: I can't find any other bug as well
+20:16 <  Chainsaw@> Good evening Zorry.
+20:16 <     Zorry > hi Chainsaw
+20:16 <jmbsvicett@> I caught up with emails today and the only issue I saw was mentioned, besides the Gentoo Poland Group, was the issue about enabling PIE on all setuid files and that was "refused" by grobian as it was still premature to send to council
+20:16 <   grobian@> ok, so can we get back to the "meeting"?
+20:17 <   grobian@> can we agree on an empty agenda?
+20:17 <  Chainsaw@> Agreed.
+20:17 <jmbsvicett@> yes
+20:17 <Betelgeuse@> yes
+20:17 <       ulm@> yes
+20:17 < dberkholz+> right. so consider the floor open
+20:17 <  Chainsaw@> Zorry: Was there anything you wanted to raise?
+20:18 <     Zorry > nope just looking in
+20:18 <   grobian@> as a note: I send the call for agenda items, but expect the chair to decide what to put on the agenda and send the agenda around 1 week in advance
+20:18 <   grobian@> in case this was unclear
+20:18 < dberkholz+> and as another friendly note, i'd recommend to the rest of you that you put 1- and 2-week reminders on your calendars, unlike me
+20:19 < dberkholz+> for the meetings you're chairing
+20:19 <   grobian@> is it perhaps better to let the chair send the call as well?
+20:19 <  Chainsaw@> Yes, I use the company CRM these days. It helps.
+20:21 < dberkholz+> ok, it's been 3 minutes. last chance to raise an issue
+20:21 <jmbsvicett@> grobian: if you don't mind sending the intial email, I appreciate it
+20:21 <   grobian@> I happily do so
+20:21 <Betelgeuse@> grobian: could include the chair in the email
+20:22 <Betelgeuse@> grobian: maybe then he will notice to do something :)
+20:22 <   grobian@> Betelgeuse: ah, YOU for next month :)
+20:22 <jmbsvicett@> :)
+20:22 <   grobian@> good suggestion, I'll try to do that
+20:22 < dberkholz+> we just need to build this stuff into the council webapp
+20:22 <   grobian@> next meeting = 13th march?
+20:22 <  Chainsaw@> That works for me, thank you.
+20:23 <Betelgeuse@> dberkholz: Now that I am chairing we could take it for a spin
+20:23 <jmbsvicett@> grobian: yes
+20:23 <   grobian@> ok, I got it down in my agenda now :)
+20:23 < dberkholz+> alright, we're done for today. next meeting is 2000 utc on march 13. Betelgeuse will chair.
+20:23 <jmbsvicett@> dberkholz: ok, thanks
+20:23 <   grobian@> thanks dberkholz
+20:24 <jmbsvicett@> I need to leave now. See you all later
+20:24 < dberkholz+> thanks for coping with my slackerness
+20:24 <Betelgeuse@> thanks
+20:24 <       ulm@> thanks
+20:24 < dberkholz+> btw, if any of you are interested in my gsoc mentoring talk from fosdem, it's online now — http://monk.ly/yjCfiA
+20:24 <   grobian@> thanks, I saw it live though :)
+20:25 < dberkholz+> watch it so that if a bus hits me, we're still ok =)
+20:25 <Betelgeuse@> dberkholz: btw did GSoC get announced in FOSDEM? Maybe I wasn't following exactly when it happened.
+20:27 < dberkholz+> Betelgeuse: yep
+20:27 <   grobian@> ok, later all