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+Summary of the council meeting 10/Dec/2017
+
+Agenda announcement: [1]
+
+
+Roll call
+----------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+Present: dilfridge, k_f, mgorny, mrueg (proxy for tamiko), slyfox,
+ ulm, williamh
+Absent: -
+
+
+Lack of enough package maintainers [2]
+----------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+While it is clear that there is a lack of package maintainers, the
+solution for that problem is not clear. In a corresponding
+brainstorming the following topics were touched (without any decisions
+or votes):
+
+* Some sort of recruitment drive could be done, for example starting
+ at FOSDEM.
+* Presence at conferences and in the social media is important.
+* drobbins suggested that Funtoo people could provide support that is
+ proxied into Gentoo.
+* There's no significant recruiter backlog; recruiting is going quite
+ smoothly for competent candidates
+* Making visible which packages need help and which of those are
+ critical is important. This touches on the question what "critical"
+ precisely means, and in turn on gentoostats-like usage statistics
+ collection.
+* Should maintainer-needed packages ever become stable?
+
+
+Update of GLEP 42 [3,4]
+----------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+The linked changes [4] to GLEP 42 (mainly dropping the requirement of
+detached OpenPGP signatures) were approved by unanimous vote.
+
+
+Final review of GLEP 74 [5,6]
+----------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+GLEP 74 was approved by unanimous vote.
+
+
+Restricting gentoo-dev/-project posting [7]
+----------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+A lengthy discussion on moderating of or restricting posting to the
+gentoo-dev and gentoo-project mailing lists took place. This also
+touched how topics should be distributed across the lists and whether
+an additional mailing list would be useful.
+
+Vote: "Do we want a public mailing list with posting restricted to
+Gentoo developers (+ voiced contributors)?"
+- 2 no votes, 3 yes votes, 2 votes "yes if that list is gentoo-dev"
+
+Vote: "Do we want a topic split, i.e., technical versus
+organizational, similar as now between gentoo-dev and gentoo-project
+mailing list?"
+- 5 yes, 2 abstain
+
+Vote: "Shall official business (eg. council-relevant things) take
+place on non-restricted lists?"
+- 2 yes, 4 no, 1 abstain
+
+Vote: "Shall all official business take place on restricted lists?"
+- 4 no, 3 yes
+
+Vote: "We restrict -dev and keep -project open; council discussions go
+to -project for now."
+- 6 yes, 1 no
+
+After announcement and a grace period of 1-2 weeks, posting to the
+gentoo-dev mailing list will be restricted to
+* @gentoo.org e-mail holders (i.e., Gentoo developers)
+* and whitelisted further contributors.
+
+Maintaining the whitelist will be done in a similar fashion as the
+Bugzilla bugedit group is handled now, with one vouching developer
+required.
+
+
+Open bugs with council participation
+----------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+Bug 637274 ("Missing summaries for 20170514 and 20170611 council
+ meetings", [8]):
+ This is work in progress.
+
+Bug 637328 ("GLEP 14 needs to be updated", [9]):
+ k_f will follow this up with the security team.
+
+Bug 635344 ("[TRACKER] manifest-hashes replacement", [10]):
+ This is well underway and can be closed or reassigned.
+
+
+Open floor
+----------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+* The council agrees that kicking and moderation should be restricted
+ to the meeting chair for the duration of a council meeting.
+
+
+[ 1] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/530b8878cba3973f40b7ea52720056fc
+[ 2] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/4771bc564060b7ab1f64d5c094105493
+[ 3] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/6f070b64892d2e351bd51b2ffa1dc64e
+[ 4] https://gitweb.gentoo.org/data/glep.git/log/?h=glep42-update
+[ 5] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/7d189934e371842fc799ba1eead3d01f
+[ 6] https://www.gentoo.org/glep/glep-0074.html
+[ 7] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/6e7cc13cd850be7dbd86376d3a197a16
+[ 8] https://bugs.gentoo.org/637274
+[ 9] https://bugs.gentoo.org/637328
+[10] https://bugs.gentoo.org/635344
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